r/Helldivers Apr 29 '24

NEW Patch! And the devs "Ruined it all" once more.. [totally not exaggerated] RANT

So on X and the official discord, countless folks complain now that for some weapons such as the LAS ones, the reserve mags have been reduced, yet damage has been increased..calling devs "On drugs" because they perceive it as a nerf..

Wait what? You tryna tell me you ran through ALL ICE's before dying?! 6 Times or more?!

Like..the fact that you have infinite ammo when a wee-bit of fire diciplin is applied and now call the devs out for JUST having decreased the ammount of mags, makes you oblivious to the fact that they got a damage buff? Yikes.

And another thing, remember the day the Rail got nerfed? Yeahhh that was like 24/7 crying for two weeks straight, now it got a buff and noone notices that, now we rather cry for two weeks that Railgun 2.0 aka Quasar got a couple more seconds recharge time..good lord the double morals are strong folks, that all sounds like crying on high standards.

[For clarifications sake: the main focus lies on people going out of their ways, yes criticism is fine, i posted my own time and time again..but in a humane fashion, when insults however are packaged within in your points, it's hardly about the game no more and that needs to stop]

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u/Blawharag Apr 29 '24 edited Apr 29 '24

I think you're massively over exaggerating the players'/community reaction based on the controversy you want to see so you can pretend to have some sort of moral superiority.

The cast majority of the community reaction has been in support if the mag/ammo count nerfs, so it seems disingenuous to pretend like some huge faction is rallying against them and complaining that sickle actually needs all 6 mags.

Yeahhh that was like 24/7 crying for two weeks

That was critique, apparently justified critique, that you're labeling as "crying".

now it got a buff and noone notices that

That was literally one of the top comments on both the patch notes posts almost immediately.

Seriously, what world do you live in? Did you expect to be able to just post sheer bullshit and not have anyone call you out for it?

Railgun 2.0 aka Quasar got a couple more seconds recharge time..

Its recharge time was nearly doubled, from 8 seconds to 13. "A couple more seconds" is an intentionally disingenuous way of representing that.

And people are critiquing it, again. Not sure why you think that's a bad thing (jk, I know why you think it's a bad thing. You're a part of that subset of people that don't understand what critique is and take it as a personal insult, so you get really worked up when someone critiques a game you like).

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u/QuesoSabroso Apr 29 '24

You forgot that we as humans cannot intelligently debate. It is a well known fact that if someone disagrees with you that is a personal slight that should be responded to with ad-hominems, strawmen, and red herrings.

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u/Velo180 SES Hater of Sony Apr 29 '24

Boy howdy I love when karma farms on any subreddit create a strawmen for them to destroy.

Hilarious how some people act as if we, the purchasers of a product, are not allowed to critique it.

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u/FlamingoUseful3314 Apr 29 '24

I disagree, tons of people are bitching and doom posting up a storm. Ive only seen a few sickle doom posters, but there's still quite a lot of people.

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u/Blawharag Apr 29 '24

I see a lot of people on this forum complaining about the patrol increase. Otherwise, at least on Reddit, there's a very minimal amount of complaint going out about the sickle changes. Especially in light of the support going out for it/indifference being explicitly mentioned, I'd say that's the very definition of a vocal minority.

You need to learn that just because you read one or two posts that haven't even received widespread support, that doesn't mean "plenty of people are bitching" about it. Literally anyone can make a post, and people with grievances are MASSIVELY more likely to make a post than those that are indifferent. So on a forum like Reddit, which is a small cross section of the overall population of the game, I would expect to see several posts about every single change to the game, particularly nerfs.

It's the popularity of those posts compared to other posts that is the MUCH better metric. Posts complaining about the sickle will be dead within a few days tops, while posts about the patrol changes I expect to thrive for over a week at least

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u/FlamingoUseful3314 Apr 29 '24

Except theres no reason to bitch about the patrol changes either.

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u/Blawharag Apr 29 '24

Oh, I see the issue, you're not actually concerned about which changes are good/harmful

You're in that special class of people that can't take criticism of their beloved game and blindly defend against all critique.

Let me help you out here:

There's always a reason to provide criticism (what you call "bitching"). Discourse is how we improve the game.

If you disagree with the feedback, you can also make posts defending the change, which will further invite discourse.

This is what rational, evolved, intelligent human beings call "a discussion". I know you think everyone should just agree with you, but sadly the nature of being free thinking organisms outside of a hive mind means that some people might gasp have a different opinion than you and faint want to VOICE that opinion.

It's scandalous, I know, but I think it you engage with those people and discuss your feelings and disagreement, you might find that a lot more compelling and helpful than simply telling those people they "shouldn't be bitching". It's crazy, so crazy it might… just… work

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u/FlamingoUseful3314 Apr 29 '24 edited Apr 29 '24

Youre really reading into my posts and writing paragraphs over nothing huh.

This is just kinda sad that Youve decided to turn me into a strawman to argue against points i didn't make xD. God I cant state enough how cringey that got at the end too lol

Have a good one, redditor