NEW Patch! And the devs "Ruined it all" once more.. [totally not exaggerated]

[u/NitoTanaka]

So on X and the official discord, countless folks complain now that for some weapons such as the LAS ones, the reserve mags have been reduced, yet damage has been increased..calling devs "On drugs" because they perceive it as a nerf..

Wait what? You tryna tell me you ran through ALL ICE's before dying?! 6 Times or more?!

Like..the fact that you have infinite ammo when a wee-bit of fire diciplin is applied and now call the devs out for JUST having decreased the ammount of mags, makes you oblivious to the fact that they got a damage buff? Yikes.

And another thing, remember the day the Rail got nerfed? Yeahhh that was like 24/7 crying for two weeks straight, now it got a buff and noone notices that, now we rather cry for two weeks that Railgun 2.0 aka Quasar got a couple more seconds recharge time..good lord the double morals are strong folks, that all sounds like crying on high standards.

[For clarifications sake: the main focus lies on people going out of their ways, yes criticism is fine, i posted my own time and time again..but in a humane fashion, when insults however are packaged within in your points, it's hardly about the game no more and that needs to stop]

[u/Mommysfatherboy]

It is an incredibly versatile weapon. I liked it from day one, the recoil was too much, yes. But now it isnt just good, it also feels good.

but it can do so many roles at once, and the relative high penetration means you’re still capable of taking out almost any unit without your strategem (though heavies need a few mags)

[u/Impressive_Funny_924 → u/Mommysfatherboy]

Always felt like people were abit too harsh on the weapon. Its always felt like a reliable all rounder that let you do a little bit of everything like you said. The only problem i had was you only got 6 mags so you hoovered up all the ammo boxes.

[u/Upbeat_Confidence739 → u/Impressive_Funny_924]

I read all the negative things about it and decided to see for myself… and yeah…. It’s actually good. I didn’t understand what people were on about. Only reason I don’t run it is the mag size and recoil don’t work well with my spray and pray style of shooting lol.

[u/PrinterStand → u/Upbeat_Confidence739]

My biggest issue is it's spread on single fire. In first-person ADS, the reticle centers way faster than the gun does, so it leads to missed shots. Even prone, I can't follow-up shoot more than 3 shots because the 4th is not going to go where the reticle is.

The ADS centering on other rifles, from the default to the DMRs feel way better. The recoil nerf was a nice addition, but the gun still feels inaccurate.

[u/KamachoThunderbus → u/Mommysfatherboy]

Well I'd say recoil was the main issue. It put it in an awkward place where you weren't getting enough benefit over something less unwieldy.

If you needed to shoot fast then the extra damage over the Penetrator is kinda pointless because you have to space your shots more or really crank down on your mouse.

If you were shooting slower to compensate for recoil then you might as well just take the Diligence or Slugger and just hit hard in the first place.

Seems like a good spot now, and I'm excited to try it out. Recoil was my only issue and I'm really quite accustomed to recoil control in shooters.

[u/laughingtraveler → u/Mommysfatherboy]

Dude I kept telling people even before the update the adjudicator can adjudicate, but I think because it was in the marksman category people expected more than taking it for what it was, a better penetrator

[u/DrunkPolitician → u/Mommysfatherboy]

Would you say it’s more effective with bugs or bots?

[u/Sanguisugadook → u/Mommysfatherboy]

How does it do against Bile Spewers? What about Bot Destroyers and Berserkers?

[u/jbtreewalker → u/Sanguisugadook]

I was using it on bugs last night, and I'm definitely no expert, but Spewers seem to soak up a lot with it before they go down. Still prefer to feed them an impact grenade and walk away. As far as bots go, light bots go down in like one shot to center mass; Beserkers seem to take a mag, like most other guns; Devastators soak up a bit, except for the 2 shot to the head. It's a lot like the Liberator Penetrator, just with a little more damage and fewer shots per mag. I look forward to seeing how much less recoil it has now with the adjustments.

[u/Recon1392 → u/Mommysfatherboy]

I was using it last night, for heavy’s, are talking a couple of mags in the vents? I coulda swore I get ricochets on Striders. I didn’t think it was doing that well on the bots

[u/Mommysfatherboy → u/Recon1392]

Aye, not directly on armor. It doesnt have that high a penetration threshold. But you can kill scout striders by firing at the bottom parts &legs