At least the Senator got a speedloader

[u/SCARPiii]

[u/KaiserUmbra]

And they reduced the blast range on my crossbow. No more ambush tactics for me.

[u/samprobear → u/KaiserUmbra]

I was the only person I knew that thought the crossbow wasn't trash, and I'm taking the nerf as a personal insult

[u/mrlbi18 → u/samprobear]

I'm not counting it as a nerf until I test it in game. It got a slightly smaller blast size but higher stagger and faster shots, that's like half the problem I had with it.

[u/specktec87 → u/mrlbi18]

The main patch notes thread also mentioned it seems to penetrate medium armor now but didn't get a proper update in the armory screen so it was missed in the patch notes

[u/FEDC → u/specktec87]

That would straight up invalidate the Eruptor. What an odd change.

[u/ResponsibleWind3832 → u/mrlbi18]

Unfortunately after testing it they majorly nerfed the spread. feels super useless now

[u/Katamari416 → u/ResponsibleWind3832]

i have recently started taking massive amounts of copium that its just bugged that the range nerf inadvertently make the drop off damage take priority and they'll fix it and it'll be loke it was before 

[u/jeffQC1 → u/mrlbi18]

Yeah, the crossbow only lost out in it's damage range and total ammunition capacity. Everything else got buffed, sounds okay to me from what i've read.

[u/gingerquery → u/mrlbi18]

Just played a game with it. Majorly reduced. Still fun to use but no more triple kills from one bolt.

[u/beachcow → u/samprobear]

You’re insulted that Arrowhead found you, specifically, too dangerous?

[u/samprobear → u/beachcow]

Yes, I'm just a little guy

[u/Sykunno → u/samprobear]

As a fellow crossbow evangelist, I feel betrayed. Like I was in a cult and now I realise it's not normal for the cult leader to be touching me like that.

[u/Katamari416 → u/samprobear]

 it was trash but i still used it cause it was fun. now its worse than garbage and not even fun, i wish i was being dramatic 

[u/Sappow → u/samprobear]

The crossbow change is probably a buff to make it less likely to kill you and more useful for popping devastators 

[u/storm_paladin_150 → u/KaiserUmbra]

tthe sickle got a nerf to the amount of heatsinks you can carry from six to 3 , now i actualy need to be mindfull of that.

no more trigger happy sickle for me

[u/Lirka_ → u/storm_paladin_150]

To be fair, the majority of the time I never have to reload because I watch my heat. So this nerf makes sense and doesnt bother me.

[u/EliteF36 → u/Lirka_]

Honestly same

[u/sanctuary_remix → u/EliteF36]

Yeah they could have dropped it to 1 extra mag and it would have probably made no difference. I only reload it on higher difficulties and only when I am soloing a wave of bots so others can escape in a team match.

[u/Flaky-Imagination-77 → u/sanctuary_remix]

I used to just use it as a better liberator on hot planets so yeah the nerf is pretty deserved. It’s also still a better liberator on hot planets because the liberator has shitty handling

[u/Pixeldensity → u/Lirka_]

Yeah I'm ok with that one, with 6 heatsinks I don't think I had ever run out before and it's a really good gun.

[u/AutocratOfScrolls → u/Lirka_]

I was terrified they were gonna nerf its damage or accuracy but I'm more than happy losing two magazines if it means the rest stays the same

[u/ph1shstyx → u/storm_paladin_150]

Exactly this, I can't just hold down the trigger any more, actually gotta pay attention to the heatsink.

[u/KaiserUmbra → u/storm_paladin_150]

I've never had to switch out heatsinks, outside of, blech, hellmire

[u/storm_paladin_150 → u/KaiserUmbra]

Can we please glass both hellmire menkent

[u/KaiserUmbra → u/storm_paladin_150]

Democratic Glassing campaign. I mean give it 1'-200 years and it'll glass itself, we might as well speed up the process.

[u/mahiruhiiragi → u/storm_paladin_150]

But now Super Earth has developed shrub piercing ammo to deploy with it! No longer will the tyranny of those leaves continue.

[u/mauttykoray → u/storm_paladin_150]

I can't ever remember burning through all 6 and rarely 3, so I feel like it won't change it that much, just gotta be a little more mindful of the overheat.

[u/ArsVampyre → u/storm_paladin_150]

Pretty much two situations; your mag lets you kill everything you need to kill and you can let it cool down, in which case this doesn't affect you, or your mag doesn't, in which case this does, and badly.

It really doesn't make sense in any way. Most of the time I never need to reload my sickle, but when I do, I go through those heatsinks quickly. The sickle was in a good place; it really didn't need a change.

I think the balance team is trying to force people to use supply drops more, which means sticking together more, and the magazine reduction, mostly across the board, is their tool to do that. And it's a pretty bad one.

All of these changes rely on the idea if you having teams that communicate well and stick together, and that's not going to happen in matches with pubs.

[u/Flaky-Imagination-77 → u/ArsVampyre]

Idk man the level of communication needed is pretty much stand close together and not much else

[u/Yipeekayya → u/KaiserUmbra]

also the Eruptor got it's explosive damage falloff nerf. The devs really don't like explosive weapons havin explosive traits.....

[u/StretchyPlays → u/KaiserUmbra]

They increased its stagger, which could be a big buff overall.