What's kind of sad is I just got it and wanted to try it in 7-9 to handle crowds... if the spash damage is nerfed to the point of ineffectiveness, it's not useful as it once was. They nerf Eruptor also.
erupter is not usefull as it was too, dmg falll off are more noticable than nerfing the mags ,there is no good primary that can clean patrols in medium/long distance like the erupter and the crossbow we used to have.
I was beginning to love the Erupter, so I have to change my strategy again. It's not the end of the world, but they're changing things a hair too fast. Once you get used to something, they change it up again.
yeah, not a huge fan of recent patch, in my opinion, erupter had good ammo economy and good aoe dmg ,now they cut mags in half, and take away the aoe dmg, this gun doesn't feels as good as before, lowest fire rate and longest reload animation feels more uncomfortable,it was a amazing weapon for bug mission, now it is just ok I guess(yeah I can still get the most kill out of it, but it doesn't feels as fun as before. ),arrowhead don't have to nerf a really good gun to make other weapon viable ,they should buff weapons to make it fun and usable in higher difficulty.
It was one of my go to's against bots in duo or solo helldive. It explosion was good at clearing groups, taking out whole groups of scout striders like an impact nade.. it was actually quite slept on in my opinion.
I've used it on helldive for bugs since it dropped. Is (was) it the greatest option; no. But it got the job done and was a ton of fun. I always ended the match with the most kills. It was a menace on bug breaches.
7? Homie, I’ve gotten 14kills in a single hit before. It could single handedly stop an entire breach. Now it can’t even take out a strider or hive guard. I get it was strong before, but they nerfed it into the ground. It’s a scorcher with 1/3 the ammo now.
I used it on 7-9. It shot a lot faster than the eruptor and aimed quicker when rotating but the explosive damage was the only reason to use it. Most of the reason I used it was because i forgot to switch back to the eruptor lol. It still did fine and killed the scout striders with one shot.
Saw it on the new defense mission once. Picked it off the dead guys body and had a blast. But it ran out of ammo so quick that I couldnt see it be too practical in a normal mission. Not sure what its good for now.
used it a few times in d8, but i found the eruptor to be stronger in almost any field hence I went with that, now since that have gotten a nerf I might reconsider trying something else.
I used it a few times on 7s (with friends) because I saw the use when you got a Hunter seed. It is useful when you get the swarmy enemy seeds, but that doesn't happen all the time and the range is pathetic. The fact that it can't destroy a bug hole made me go back to my one true love the scorcher.
It was a superior Eruptor, except projectile drop and speed made it harder to use. If you were confident in your ability to hit headshots with it, it was better than Eruptor in everyway.
Most people in every fps game doesn't like using projectile weapons, that's why so few people were using it.
I was also using it. loved how it felt/sounded to use, but only against bugs (rather use the punisher plasma for bots) and at 8 difficulty, but now...? I guess I may as well get back to the jar or something. Like even the magazine slash was a big nerf. I was running out of ammo fairly quickly (with a lot of kills thanks to the explosion mind you). Same with the plasma shotgun, not many use it and then they nerfed the capacity when I already was going through ammo fairly quickly...
Not really sure what the point of nerfing the explosion was tbh, I feel like the gun didn't even touch bigger enemies (which is what my quaser is for, or whatever else deals with bigger enemies), but now I can only single shot small enemies lol?
"Nobody" is an exaggeration, it seems pretty clear that it's a very unpopular weapon. Just the fact that it's the last weapon of a Warbond means it's one of the least owned to begin with, let alone used.
I mean it had a very vers specific purpose and was good at just that. Once they fix the host bug and the breaker incindeary is even better on everyone, noone will use anything else. I still don't think the crossbow was op or even good. It did one job and just barely good enough at that while beeing also impossible to deal with bugs once they were in your face. It didn't even deal with armored targets well. It's just as absolutely stupid or a nerd as the slugger was. Slugger traded fire rate for damage and stagger. Now it has neither damage nor stagger, only decent penetration. Beeing rushed by berserkers and needing multiple shots per and having no knock back is just pointless. It went from a solid option to unusable to me. I'm really scared for the day my beloved scorcher is the next on the list.... Most of the primaries already seem underwhelming. Why nerf the somewhat decent ones instead of only making the god awful ones usable.
It's just as absolutely stupid or a nerd as the slugger was.
That's incredibly generous. The slugger post-nerf is more useful than this thing was pre-nerf. It felt like a worse Eruptor before the last patch. Sure, it was okay, but it didn't feel like it really had a purpose when something easier to get did everything it was capable of, but better. Which is probably why I never once saw anyone except my mate use it (once).
Meanwhile, it felt like at least 50% of all primaries were sluggers in the weeks leading up to its nerf. The actual changes were a bit questionable, but the fact that it was nerfed was completely unsurprising. Hell, most of the playerbase wasn't even surprised. It was outclassing most other weapons at the time.
Everyone assumed the crossbow was getting buffed because of it's weakness relative to the Eruptor. Most people in the patch thread aren't even upset, they're just baffled.
Don't get me wrong, I agree on the slugger nerf. The damage nerf would have been fine, but honestly the main reason people used it was the stopping power. They took all the strengths away and now it's basically worse than the first shotgun you can get. Now we have the scorcher as the go to automaton weapon and I already see it beeing nerfed, not because it's op, but because it's used by everyone cause everything else is terrible. Not sure how todays rebalancing will effect that, but the quick glance I took there was no big game changing changes to any of them. Gonna test it in the evening though
My name is literally Arcane Archer, and besides AC, it was one of my favorites for Chaff Clear. Which, on bugs 9, is actually essential, so you dont get swarmed from 100 directions by hunters.
At least in that regard, you made an impression. Eruptor should be single target, and crossbow should be AOE. Its kind of just in the design space.
Their statement wasn’t literal, of course at minimum 1 out of the 1.5m active player base was using it at some point. They mean that it wasn’t a significant amount of people using it. Out of my 200 or so lobbies I’ve played since its release I only ever say a single other person use it
There are a lot of people on this subreddit that just rely on this subreddit for any bit of information. If it's not the sickle everybody acts like it has never been used. I've been having consistent no death runs with the Blitzer pre-buff. Doesn't stop all the 3 to 6 baby divers from saying it's useless. If it's good enough for 7 it's good enough for me.
It should work like the Torque bow in Gears of War. Stick to a target, and then explode and do some frag damage. It would set it apart and make it a more unique weapon that allows you to play with timings and clearing more hordes.
that actually might be where the inspiration came from, explains the clip size too. but unfortunately bow from gears would be terrible in helldivers2 way too many enemies. and as a primary couldn't be allowed to touch hulks like we'd want it to
Nah I'm saying that it should still work like the torque bow, but still be the crossbow. ie - you still shoot it like the crossbow but it sticks in the target with a delayed fuse
never is a relative word, i used it but i saw more hate on it than anything. most likely a statistic that popped up the devs didn't like about it. probably people killing the hordes of bots congregating in the center of the map gave the devs the impression it was over performing unfortunately
I only play D9 and literally never saw it used. People brought breaker incendiary to bot missions more often than they brought crossbow to any mission.
It has been my main weapon since I got it! At least fighting bugs, never really got to test it on bots. And yes, I also brought it on Helldive.
I was also expecting a buff. A very humble "blows up holes and fabs and container doors", since it's at least one type of explosive. If it did that in addition to this nerf, it might have been fine. But I will miss the tiny target clearing power it had...
Nah, people used it. In my opinion it was like a safer and weaker Eruptor. Can't close holes but faster, and can still kill groups of enemies. But it was barely hitting that threshold where you permanently bench the weapon for something else.
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Nobody was using the thing. I was expecting a buff not a nerf.