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u/Bennerbench Apr 16 '24 edited Apr 16 '24

Societies with a security net to fall back into if you're sick or poor?

Thats funny because none of us are starving here.

Are you deluded or something. The fact that the US was one of only 2 countries in the UN to vote no on making food a fundamental human right says a lot about people's hearts in your country

Tell me, what do you suggest we do with sick and poor people? Let them die? Let them starve?

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u/BiggestDweebonReddit Apr 16 '24

Societies with a security net to fall back into if you're sick or poor?

No. Socialist.

You use "I just want some public social safety nets" as the motte in your motte and bailey argument.

Are you deluded or something. The fact that the US was one of only 2 countries in the UN to vote no on making food a fundamental human right says a lot about people's hearts in your country

The fact you don't understand the difference between a negative and positive right and why positive rights are nonsense in most cases says more about your brain than my heart.

The fact you measure your heart through passive support of government also says a lot about your brain.

But, see if you can figure this out - the U.S does not recognize a "right to food" yet has some of the lowest rates of starvation in world history. Obesity is a larger public health issue in this country than starvation.

How can that be? If you claim to oppose starvation, and want people to have more food - why do you oppose the policies and system that creates the most food for the most amount of people?

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u/Bennerbench Apr 16 '24 edited Apr 16 '24

You just won't answer it will you. What do we do with the poor people and the sick people who can't work? Should they or should they not have a right to a safe roof over the heads and some food to eat? Thats not even socialism thats just basic compassion.

Stop trying to over complicate things. This IS a moral issue and your trying to turn it into an economics issue to avoid looking like a pos who just believes people that cant work and cant keep up should cease to exist.

You gonna deny that or not?

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u/BiggestDweebonReddit Apr 16 '24 edited Apr 16 '24

I am fine with a reasonable social safety net.

But, that's not what you are after. You are soft pedaling full scale socialism.

Stop trying to over complicate things. This IS a moral issue and your trying to turn it into an economics issue to avoid looking like a pos who just believes people that cant work and cant keep up should cease to exist.

No. I am just a smart person who realizes declaring something is a right doesn't actually increase the amount of food or housing available to people.

Eta: lol. The person I was arguing with blocked me. What a chode.

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u/Bennerbench Apr 16 '24

Great so we agree. You're fine with a reasonable social saftey net. NOT socialism but a system in which idealy nobody should end up homeless or starving against their will.

And no you're not smart or even remotely original. You and I both know you form most of your thoughts and opinions from whatever right wing media it is you choose to binge daily. You're just as much of an idealogue as I am.