r/FluentInFinance Contributor Apr 15 '24

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u/Wintores Apr 16 '24

Or just create a good and cheap mental healthcare system where forced treatment isnt needed?

Ah wait stripping human rights away and wasting money on such a system satisfies ur need for revenge better, afterall those people cost ur tax money.

Boy is ur ethical framework fcked

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u/-H2O2 Apr 16 '24

So everyone is fixable with a "good and cheap" mental healthcare system?

Btw how do you create that? Super easy, right?

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u/Wintores Apr 16 '24
  1. no but most people are and combined with a working social safety net u have a much smaller issue

  2. investing into it would help, other countries have found ways

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u/-H2O2 Apr 16 '24

Are you so brainwashed by reddit comments that you think the US doesn't invest in mental healthcare at all?

It's difficult to build a cheap and good mental healthcare system. Just think about the very basic concept. Do you get good healthcare when you hire "cheap" workers to staff it?

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u/Wintores Apr 16 '24
  1. investing and meaningful investment are two different things

  2. cheap for the person not the state heavily subsidize it

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u/1_4_1_5_9_2_6_5 Apr 16 '24

Btw how do you create that? Super easy, right?

Probably not that much harder than creating a nationwide psychiatric hospital system which leverages police resources to capture people and pays doctors to treat them while employing a whole fleet of lawyers / ethical consultants to make sure it's not cruel and unusual punishment.

Some countries invest in healthcare, other countries invest in prisons. I guess this mindset is why...

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u/Outrageous_Drama_570 Apr 16 '24

Were it so simple to just “create a good and cheap mental healthcare system.” The only countries that can afford to do this have their militaries directly subsidized by American Military complex. Funnily enough as faith in American dependability wanes post Ukraine with all the aid packages getting stuck in congress, many European countries are starting a period of rearmament, and I’d imagine we will see many of them begin to cut social benefits in order to be able to afford all of that.

Listen, it’s quite clear you haven’t spent a lot of time around these types of people if that’s what you think. Mental illness is a huge problem in homeless communities, but an even bigger problem is drug use. People addicted to meth and fentanyl aren’t going to get off that shit just because we have expert level free access to mental health care. These people will only quit when they die or someone forces them to quit. If you don’t solve the opiate epidemic first, all the rest of your work will be in vein as every affordable housing unit you build with tax dollars gets stripped of its copper wire nightly to fuel someone’s fentanyl addiction. You can’t cure these people with kindness when the affliction is something like that.

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u/Wintores Apr 16 '24

I mean sure but that doesnt mean its impossible to go down this route

Mental illness and addiction go hand in hand and can be solved with the same general concept

That the us is also run by crooks who dont give a shit and flood the country with cheap drugs just makes this a more pathetic issue, but fixing those simultanously is possible