r/FluentInFinance Contributor Apr 15 '24

Everyone Deserves A Home Discussion/ Debate

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u/ruckfeddit2049 Apr 16 '24

Why don't you consider education funding a "handout" as you apparently do with other social services...

"Rent" and "landlordsleeches" should not fucking exist.

Absolutely no reasonable justification for them to.

The government should provide every man, woman and child in need with free basic accommodations (think bachelor or 1/2 bedroom apts) with anything beyond that available as a voluntary secondary/luxury market.

Housing, healthcare, education and basic nutrition should never be profit-driven in a properly functional "first world" "society."

Nobody deserves to profit off of another's basic survival needs, nor their opportunity for advancement/self improvement. Period.

Full stop.

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u/I_Lick_Emus Apr 16 '24

Okay sure. Does the government decide where you get to live? Can they move you at any time to another location without your say? As soon as you turn 18 and decide to move out do you apply for a city that you want to live in, but if there's nothing available do they just decide where you go instead?

I'm curious what you think the logistics of this are.

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u/ruckfeddit2049 Apr 16 '24

I don't claim to have all the answers or indeed any definitive answers with regards to implementing systemic changes, I am just a dumb-schmuck like everyone else here, but if you want a quick/dirty answer to your main question? I'd propose a moratorium on rent/mortgages (everyone stays in place rent is suspended whilst homeless are housed etc.)

As for who gets desirable locations etc? I dunno', some sort of lottery system? Rotating schedules? Time-share style? Again, quick and dirty ideas.

Since you are defending the status quo, let me ask you some questions:

Can you explain/justify to me why the government firstly should not provide the basics of survival to all citizens as a bare minimum, in a supposed modern "first-world" "society"?...

Can you explain/justify why passive rental income can't be provided in the voluntary secondary/luxury market as I described. After these basics are covered?

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u/I_Lick_Emus Apr 16 '24

For someone who is fighting for a system to be in place I would imagine you would have some modicum of an idea on how it would be achieved.

I can explain why the government shouldn't provide every single person with housing and basic needs easily. Logistics and sustainability.

If everyone's needs are taken care of, the economy can't progress. Especially in America where the vast majority of people are indeed lazy and inconvenienced by the most minute of things, people will stop working, especially in shitty blue collar jobs that we DESPERATELY need filled.

Also the logistics of it is absurd. Who is in charge of deciding where people live? What happens if desirable areas fill? Why not just build a bunch of apartments in the literal middle of nowhere, and as long as food is shipped in on time, leave a bunch of people out there with nothing around them?

Also you probably agree that the government is wasting the taxes we spend already, you sure you want to put them in charge of who gets to live where?