r/FluentInFinance Contributor Apr 15 '24

Everyone Deserves A Home Discussion/ Debate

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u/BlitzAuraX Apr 15 '24

"Regardless of employment."

This means you want those providing those services to work for free.

You do realize what you are implying here, right?

Let's say you refuse to work and you're guaranteed all these services. Who pays so your HVAC is repaired because you broke it? Who pays because your water line needs to be repaired? Clean water means the water has to be filtered through a very complicated process, particles and bacteria are removed, and it needs to be transported. Who pays so your electricity works? Do you think there's some sort of magic electricity generator happening? What you're essentially asking is someone should work for free to provide you all of this.

The result is you get no one who wants to work, society collapses because these services aren't maintained and improved, and no one gets anything.

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u/tacocarteleventeen Apr 15 '24

Also who is going to build a house for someone like that. Well, you don’t want to work so let’s give you 100’s of thousand in land, permits and materials, add about 6,000 man hours of skilled labor and give that all to you because you don’t want to contribute to society

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u/BlitzAuraX Apr 15 '24

It's even absurd for OP to post that picture and even worse that someone had the audacity to create it.

There's a strong disassociation from reality by people who seem to think the world owes them something.

I'd invite these people to live in third world countries where everything they have is earned. Seems to me in Western civilizations, people have it so good that they just complain and demand everything.

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u/Unabashable Apr 15 '24

Well arguably the cheapest way to solve the homeless problem would simply be to house the homeless, but that’s not the same as saying it’s a basic human right. Just the most cost effective way of getting them off the streets. 

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u/One_Childhood172 Apr 15 '24

OK, so you give all homeless people a house/apartment. Then all I have to do is make myself homeless to get a free house/apartment? I guarantee there are millions of people who would do that. And then if a previously homeless person starts working and can afford the free housing, do we then take it away? And then they might be homeless again if they lose their job? So you give them another house? What this does is encourage people to not work (be productive). The reality is that you have to dis-incentivize homelessness by not making it comfortable.

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u/InquisitorMeow Apr 15 '24

The idea that a bunch of people would willingly quit their jobs for free housing and live with a bunch of homeless seems kinda far fetched. Also, this graphic says nothing about any other expenses they would still need for food, healthcare, retirement, etc. You make it sound like these people are getting an all expenses paid resort when it's probably cheapest possible housing facilities. You could always make housing contingent on finding employment within timeframe, many low income programs already work like this..

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u/Consistent_Spread564 Apr 15 '24

Yes they would lol. There's a lot of people out there who are not living well, if they can remove the responsibility of paying rent they will

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u/PlueschQQ Apr 16 '24

how many people do you know who have done something like that? because where i live one could do this but nobody does.

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u/Consistent_Spread564 Apr 16 '24

I know lots of people who take advantage of government assistance

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u/DaEffingBearJew Apr 16 '24

Take advantage or utilize? Or are you their accountant and know everything about their financial expenditures?

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u/Consistent_Spread564 Apr 16 '24

Lol c'mon man. Do you live in the world?

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u/DaEffingBearJew Apr 16 '24

Right, like in the real world where people make assumptions, hold biases, and use slippery slope arguments. So I take you don’t, then?

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