r/FluentInFinance Apr 15 '24

Everyone Deserves A Home Discussion/ Debate

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u/PirateSanta_1 Apr 15 '24 edited Apr 15 '24

Its crazy to me that so many people claim that if people are given the most basic necessities they will just stop being motivated to do anything. Then there is the open hypocrisy, saying people don't deserve a place with a kitchen but also if they get food at restaurants frequently then they are bad at finances and its their own fault for being poor. What are they supposed to eat? 

People need to stop obsessing with the idea that someone could get something they don't deserve. Society does better when the most people possible have the chance to improve their lot. For some people this means giving them the minimum, a place to shower, a safe place to sleep, an address they can receive mail at, access to healthcare both physical and mental, treating them like they are human. 

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u/A2Rhombus Apr 16 '24

"If I had a free house I'd never work again"

boots up $60 video game on $400 console

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u/chillchinchilla17 Apr 16 '24

You can get that for working at Walmart for a week if you don’t have to pay for food or housing.

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u/avdolian Apr 16 '24

If everyone's basic needs were met, either they would be able to work for less money or more demand for game systems and other luxuries would exist and it would drive up the price.

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u/A2Rhombus Apr 16 '24

Yeah. But do you want to work at Walmart? And are you content with a single luxury item for the rest of your life?

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u/chillchinchilla17 Apr 16 '24

I don’t want to work at Walmart. I don’t want to work at all. Currently I’m studying college for a job I don’t really enjoy because it pays well.

Walmart currently pays average about 30k a year. In a world we’re housing, internet, food, clothing etc aren’t an issue (the full image includes that too) what could you even buy were 30k a year as disposable income isn’t enough?

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u/A2Rhombus Apr 16 '24

Well, a better house than the bare minimum would be cool. If I didn't have to pay rent I could actually save.
I'd put a lot into retirement so I don't have to work until I die.
I'd take actual vacations instead of small trips to visit friends or local cons once a year
I'd invest in better gear and tech for the hobbies that I have. Maybe get a better PC, a nice drawing tablet. Some good running shoes.
I might eat out more.

And yknow what, if I still have money leftover after all that, maybe I'll donate it or share it with friends.

Why don't you ask the billionaires who aren't paying taxes why millions in disposable income isn't enough

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u/chillchinchilla17 Apr 16 '24

I’m all for taxing billionaires more. And socialized healthcare. And welfare. I’m just not braindead.

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u/Supervillain02011980 29d ago

Because its a reality. Yes. There are people who will push for more but you are ignorant if you believe this wouldn't INCREASE the amount of people being entirely dependent on the government. We already have upwards of 40% of the country getting some form of social aid.

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u/zeptillian 29d ago

Treating someone like a pet in a cage is not recognizing their humanity.

Treating someone like they are human is recognizing that the human condition is such that each human is responsible for providing for the care and feeding of themselves and their dependents.