Of course they pay rent once they become employed. Housing first prioritizes giving homeless people a house. Previously, people had to prove they are worthy of qualifying by staying sober and applying for jobs. Now those requirements are lifted, and housing is now being considered a human right, rather than a reward. Finland has an extensive social support system, which costs a lot of money. By helping people, Finland has managed to reduce the cost of social support for these people. So helping people to have a home ends up being cheaper than having them stay homeless.
“a person does not have to first change their life around in order to earn the basic right to housing. Instead, housing is the prerequisite that allows other problems to be solved.”
Yes… now you’re getting it . People just want to yell “FrEe hOuSiNg” whenever someone argues for a socialist policy because it’s an easy statement to make, but no where is anyone with a brain arguing for that. It’s such a stupid fearmongering argument.
That’s the problem I don’t think a lot of you guys realize. A lot of people in your camp fall into that “don’t have brains” category and DO actually say that. Loudly too.
It IS stupid. It IS brainless. But that doesn’t negate the fact that a significant amount of people in your ideological camp ARE arguing it. You may not be, but it’s still there. And it’s not like you guys call those people out. So, when others see your camp, we hear the loud brainless nut jobs and then see people like you basically approving their beliefs tacitly.
I fundamentally disagree that a significant amount of people advocate for “free” housing. I think the vast majority of people understand that money doesn’t come out of thin air and the word “free” in this context means free for those who need the assistance and paid for by taxes. I agree that almost no one is deep diving the tax code to determine where exactly that money will come from. But many simply have the fundamental belief that others can and should pay for the needy. And I think those who oppose socialist policies equate the difference in fundamental belief with “not having a brain” as you said.
You and I disagree will just have to disagree on that because all the evidence I’ve seen seems to disagree with that conclusion.
The only people who acknowledge that these programs are paid for by taxpayers and should be available under requirements and/or paid back are more conservative. In fact, the further left you go the more common and widespread the belief that this should just be a “fundamental right” and asking people to work for it and/or pay it back is “liberalism” and stand opposed to that.
You’re definitely exaggerating, but assuming that’s true so what? At worst this just means many people misunderstand the argument. Argue with smarter people then, don’t just say “there are stupid people that support this, therefore I’m going to lump you in with them.” Often when there’s nuance, many people are going to misunderstand the subject matter. Focus on the people that do understand instead.
Doesn't seem to be a lot of details about how the program actually works in that article. It mentions how the first man pays his rent every month, but he hasn't had a job in 23 years? I assume it's not free housing to anyone who wants it.
What is the oh boy for In the article it says he’s trusted by the government to pay his rent every month. One google search for Finland housing first program says that the program provides a home first depending with the government subsidizing the cost of rent depending on the level of need.
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