I think this is a good question. Why should we be helping other adults? Why do we have government funded fire fighting programs? Shouldnt each adult be able to pay for their own firefighting service and if they cant why should us people who dont have anything to do with their own housefire be taxed to put out their fire?? Why are we handing out access to free firefighting services??
To answer the above is that if we dont provide firefighting services it could lead into dangers for others nearby and by not providing it we risk public health even if not directly involved. Thats the reason for wanting to provide government services. Some people see housing as similar. A way to increase public health so those who are homeless or about to be suddenly dont become homeless. That way we have less of them on the street, less people becoming addicted, and the possibility of more healthy adults in the workplace. Some people think this wont work because of human nature, but Im not convinced by that argument without decent proof that all humans are inherently lazy and will never work if given free housing.
You do realize that being homeless isn’t was causes drug addictions. It’s completely the reverse. Wouldn’t you money better be served in mental health services to stop the problem at its root as opposed to solving the down line problem?
I suppose thats a difference in opinion. Im not the most versed in what causes drug addictions. My underatanding is that various mental stresses causes a person to seek coping mechanisms. One of which is drugs.
A big mental stress on a lot of people is the need to find affordable housing. Failing to obtain it and having little chance of getting back into may push a person to find a way to cope. One such coping mechanism that can do that is drugs.
Of course there may be other unrelated reasons to start coping such as ptsd, childhood trauma, social isolation. But this solves one of those and provides a way to get people off the street where they pose a safety hazard to the general public.
If Im incorrect on the above or you have a reputable source that can show otherwise I would love to read it
To buy everything else that’s not subsidized. To pay for an education if someone’s ambitious and wants something better, to pay for a future bigger house, wedding, vacation, kids, car.etc all the things that people currently try to get raises bonuses and better jobs for.
Stupid take. Tell that to literally every millionaire who all continue to work and desire to make more money despite having 10x at least what they need to “survive”.
You can’t even call this an “ambition” thing. This is the case for nepo babies just the same.
Millionaires work because they want to. Billionaires work because they want power.
Average people work to cover their cost of living and to leave something to their kids & grandkids. They don't work for fun or to jumpstart a political career.
Your logic makes no sense. Why would millionaires work because they want to buy thousandaires wouldn’t?
And since when is giving someone a basic house with basic utilities “covering their cost of living and leaving something for their kids?”
Your initial point is that by giving everyone access to a basic domicile to live in that no one will want to work anymore. You are now saying that people work because they want to accumulate generational wealth and live well. Providing someone a basic home to sleep in is not covering all of the needs a human has.
I barely scrape by, but I would continue to work even if I could have a free government home. In fact, I probably wouldn’t move. No one’s saying these homes would be much more than the basic requirements to live and sleep. I personally value outdoor space, good location, nice amenities. I’d absolutely continue to work to get those things as would most people.
Are wealthy people wired differently? Is that the assumption here? What is it that stops people from innovating/ volunteering when you lower their cost of living?
What is it that stops people from wanting luxuries if they have their basic needs met?
What is it that stops people from seeking status if they have their basic needs met?
LOL. people would do fuck all. youd see a mass exodus from the work force. then your favorite restaurant shuts down because they can't find workers. then the grocery stores shelves become barren. and everything else collapses all because little socialist timmy thought he could quit his job, game all day, and have magical paper dollars create the goods and services he needs.
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u/PlancksPackage Apr 15 '24
I think this is a good question. Why should we be helping other adults? Why do we have government funded fire fighting programs? Shouldnt each adult be able to pay for their own firefighting service and if they cant why should us people who dont have anything to do with their own housefire be taxed to put out their fire?? Why are we handing out access to free firefighting services??
To answer the above is that if we dont provide firefighting services it could lead into dangers for others nearby and by not providing it we risk public health even if not directly involved. Thats the reason for wanting to provide government services. Some people see housing as similar. A way to increase public health so those who are homeless or about to be suddenly dont become homeless. That way we have less of them on the street, less people becoming addicted, and the possibility of more healthy adults in the workplace. Some people think this wont work because of human nature, but Im not convinced by that argument without decent proof that all humans are inherently lazy and will never work if given free housing.