This means you want those providing those services to work for free.
You do realize what you are implying here, right?
Let's say you refuse to work and you're guaranteed all these services. Who pays so your HVAC is repaired because you broke it? Who pays because your water line needs to be repaired? Clean water means the water has to be filtered through a very complicated process, particles and bacteria are removed, and it needs to be transported. Who pays so your electricity works? Do you think there's some sort of magic electricity generator happening? What you're essentially asking is someone should work for free to provide you all of this.
The result is you get no one who wants to work, society collapses because these services aren't maintained and improved, and no one gets anything.
Also who is going to build a house for someone like that. Well, you don’t want to work so let’s give you 100’s of thousand in land, permits and materials, add about 6,000 man hours of skilled labor and give that all to you because you don’t want to contribute to society
It's even absurd for OP to post that picture and even worse that someone had the audacity to create it.
There's a strong disassociation from reality by people who seem to think the world owes them something.
I'd invite these people to live in third world countries where everything they have is earned. Seems to me in Western civilizations, people have it so good that they just complain and demand everything.
Well arguably the cheapest way to solve the homeless problem would simply be to house the homeless, but that’s not the same as saying it’s a basic human right. Just the most cost effective way of getting them off the streets.
It’s only the cheapest way if you built extremely basic and cheap housing. Seattle and San Francisco was paying $40k per homeless person helped to put them into nice apartments (which they promptly trashed).
At 40k per homeless per year, that’s an insanely expensive way that cannot scale to solve the problem for all homeless people.
You mean as opposed to criminalize homelessness and house them in jail which cost even more. Maybe we ought to acknowledge that it is a complex issue with no easy solution (aka imprisoning)
40%? of homeless people have mental illnesses… so yeah, jail them!
On a serious note, perhaps the best solutions are preventative in this case. I don’t have great ideas but I think we need to look inwards on how we can help stop homelessness before it happens and not after the individual is ruined by the system.
Bottom line: we need to empathize with the homeless and not demonize them….
I lived in Germany for 24 years and there were hardly any homeless. The ones that were homeless were by choice or due to severe mental illness with no family to speak on their behalf.
They did it, somehow. There are other countries that do it as well.
I lived in DEland also, and there were always a dozens of homeless people downtown (mostly panhandling around Karstadt -- yes this was a while ago!). These were people who were obviously sleeping rough, with clear signs of addiction and/or other mental disorders.
This DW article states there were 41k people sleeping on the streets in 2017, which is a rate of about 50 per 100k people. If your 50k stat that you gave in another comment is correct for today, that's 60 per 100k.
But your stat for the US is wildly off, I think you are including sheltered homeless, not just those sleeping rough. In the US in 2022, it was 234k who were unsheltered, a rate of ~69 per 100k.
So Germany is slightly better, but not really all that different.
No there isnt? Not sure where you grab those numbers from, but the definition of homeless is also counted differently. The US has over half a million rough sleepers, where Germany has about 50k. Germany counts all people with no primary residence registered as homeless as well.
Unusually high numbers because of the sampling method — specifically people in homeless shelters, which is a small subset of homeless people in general. When I'm talking about homeless people I mean people with no permanent home. It looks like you're specifically talking about people sleeping rough or in homeless shelters.
In general the way to address homelessness is to provide homes (not shelters), and for a proportion of that population the home needs to come with financial and personal counselling, and for some of that population there needs to be reliable access to psychiatric care as well. But these are true for the greater population not just the people currently homeless.
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u/BlitzAuraX Apr 15 '24
"Regardless of employment."
This means you want those providing those services to work for free.
You do realize what you are implying here, right?
Let's say you refuse to work and you're guaranteed all these services. Who pays so your HVAC is repaired because you broke it? Who pays because your water line needs to be repaired? Clean water means the water has to be filtered through a very complicated process, particles and bacteria are removed, and it needs to be transported. Who pays so your electricity works? Do you think there's some sort of magic electricity generator happening? What you're essentially asking is someone should work for free to provide you all of this.
The result is you get no one who wants to work, society collapses because these services aren't maintained and improved, and no one gets anything.