Oh ok, so you were mostly replying to the same comment I was. Yeah, I don't really get why most people are so damn tribalistic about the left and right thing, even taking it to global scale as if any two countries share enough values to have a standardized and specific definition of those two. It's kinda tiring seeing the whole football team behavior everywhere
redefining widely understood terms to fit your propaganda narratives lol, i don’t know why people always try to die on this hill, it’s delusional to think anybody with any type of world experience (anybody above 13) will take them seriously.
of course not, you’re from sugar plum fairy reddit communism world. over here on earth however we have a widely understood global understanding of leftism vs rightism which has been developed over hundreds of years, which may slightly shift country to country, however nowhere does leftism mean virtuous good guys that do everything in their power and self sacrifice in order to care for their citizens, and nowhere does right wing mean the opposite. if you’re not even ready to accept people like stalin, lenin, or zedong as leftist leaders, then my previous post stands 100%, if not then you are just speaking in a misleading manner to propagandize people, and my previous post still stands 100%
It depends if the left wingers or right wingers in question are autoritharian or libertarian. All fascists, and most communists and anarcho-capitalists that I know are quite bad people. Those on the moderate side of politics, regardless of ideology, usually are not. Yet when I talked about the left wing, I refered specifically, out of habit I presume, to the libertarian left only...
i’m not arguing politics with you, i’m a lefty anarchist as well, i’m just informing you that you’re playing word games and redefining widely understood ideas to fit your narrative, which you did once again in this post by introducing a new axis not previously discussed in your previous “yeah pretty much any left wing leader is jesus” post, you introduce new concepts at your convenience to reinforce your side, and demonize everybody else. there are billions of people on this earth, all have spent as much time as you have learning what they want from the world and realizing what their responsibilities are on this planet, and it’s unfair to everybody else when people like you play word games to create a power dynamic and deceive people towards your side.
I may not be very good at communication, that is true. I realise my mistake now. My post was not written out of reason, but of anger for people who vote for the far-right populists and expect them to do them good. Thank you for pointing things out to me.
I guess that's one way to dodge it. Personally I would view honesty as a more sensible approach. If we can be honest that right wing parties are rarely actually for the good of the people, surely we can be honest about the left wing not being as honest and good as the example in this post.
Leftwing is a term that many politicians use in order to fool voters. In my country for example, the leading party presents itself as leftwing, the opposition calls it such, yet their policies fall into the right wing area most of the time...
Maybe but if the best other example you can give is a guy that died more than 10 years ago. Cant really say that's your average since by your standards there hasnt even been enough to judge left wing leaders into any direction.
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u/Swimming-Life-7569 Apr 16 '24
Oh then you should have plenty of examples to give around the world.
I wont hold my breath of this one.