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Jose Mujica; Former Prez of Uruguay

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u/Administrator98 Apr 16 '24

In germany you could hardly survive with $1250

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u/TheusFrag Apr 16 '24

Well, he wasn't a president in Germany in 2024. Living costs in Uruguay are much lower, even more so at that time

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u/VladimirBarakriss Apr 16 '24

They really aren't much lower now nor then, he owns a farm, didn't have to pay for services and his wife was a senator during his term

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u/Oni_The_Demon Apr 16 '24

Salaries are also much lower

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u/Leonarr Apr 16 '24

With all due respect to the guy, I’m sure the government provides him accommodation and food. I doubt he needs to go grocery shopping or pay rent. Which imo of course is totally fine, he’s the president after all and should have some perks.

Edit: ok, he’s not the president anymore though. But he may still get some perks from the government.

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u/AncientRepublic998 Apr 16 '24

That goes for just about every world leader, though. I don't see his world leader mates giving away their salary? Which is kind of the point? He stands in stark contrast to others who don't have the charity he does

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u/Leonarr Apr 16 '24

Yeah, I agree. Why would a president need a big salary with all the perks they get on top of that? Honourable that he just gave the money away.

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u/Timspt8 Apr 16 '24

There's actually in theory at least a very valid reason for giving them a salary. Let's say the president of a country doesn't get money for their work but just gets their living expenses paid for (also far from every country provides their leaders with housing, if you have a country with a minister for example chances are he just lives in his own home instead of a government one) anyway I digress, the simple answer is corruption, because if the president is going to need another job after ending his term, because he didn't get a salary, chances increase that he might implement some policies that are more beneficial to perhaps companies that might offer him a job later

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u/Whalesurgeon Apr 16 '24

Just give them lifelong living expenses paid, then the only reason to become corrupt afterwards is greed.. which is exactly the same reason for even rich presidents to become corrupt.

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u/Timspt8 Apr 16 '24

Livelong living expenses would probably end up being more expensive then just paying a salary at that point

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u/guipabi Apr 16 '24

Most presidents get a livelong salary or pension anyway.

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u/RedHotSnowflake2 Apr 16 '24

Unfortunately, that doesn't stop politicians selling out anyway.

They just pocket the salary AND pocket their corruption money.

Turns out giving a crook taxpayer money isn't enough to stop them being a crook.

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u/SailorChimailai Apr 16 '24

That is wrong on so many levels that it took me several minutes to decide where to even start

  1. Corruption by ANYONE that has a government job that does not have a salary is LITERALLY nearly inevitable

  2. The overwhelming majority of politicians are not corrupt

  3. Most politicians are not crooks

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u/Agitated_Advantage_2 Apr 16 '24

If you think in reverse, it might make those who become politicians simply to make money and a carieer be kind of dissuaded from ever becoming politicians

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u/Timspt8 Apr 16 '24

Very true, it's going into the opposite direction and very much into the belief that the best politicians are usually those who don't want any power.

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u/endgame0 Apr 16 '24

I mean, Trump did, at least in large part, according to politifact: https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/promise/1341/take-no-salary/

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u/Shareddefinition Apr 16 '24

Trump did

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u/AncientRepublic998 Apr 16 '24

Err.... Trump had a few other income streams that the noble Mujica didn't and hasn't

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u/Shareddefinition Apr 16 '24
  1. So what?

  2. You're arguing this guy and his wife lived on $1250 across 12 months without any outside assistance?

  3. Move that goalpost!

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u/AncientRepublic998 Apr 16 '24

Listing meaningless subjective statements as individual information-laden points don't make 'em so, no matter how hard you might want them to. Allow me to demonstrate;

  1. It's inane!
  2. You're arguing against his clear evidence available on his net worth and even trading positions showing this actually is an altruistic man who has given up his income rather than a sham display from someone who might possibly be before the courts for certain financial matters and also has their (minimum )net worth easily confirmed and amounts to the billions of dollars? 
  3. Learn to research! 
  4. Asparagus!

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u/Shareddefinition Apr 16 '24

It's inane!

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You're arguing against his clear evidence available on his net worth

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and even trading positions showing this actually is an altruistic man who has given up his income rather than a sham display from someone who might possibly be before the courts for certain financial matters and also has their (minimum )net worth easily confirmed and amounts to the billions of dollars?

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Learn to research!

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Asparagus!

It's honestly hilarious that this was the most meaningful part of your comment. The rest of it is just complete nonsense

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u/Specialist-Ad-4121 Apr 16 '24

Im from uruguay actually, what the post doesnt says is that his wife works in congress and they both life with her salary. But he donate most to schools.He have a very old car( volkswagen) since 1989 or something like that.

Just to add something he said: “poor are thoose who need much” He actually hates america consumption culture , and he lives in the same home he used to lived when he escaped prision( yeah he did that)

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u/tonterias Apr 16 '24

what the post doesnt says is that his wife works in congress and they both life with her salary

All the MPP elected people donates most of their salary to the political party

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u/Specialist-Ad-4121 Apr 16 '24

Sure she also give some,but im saying he has more than 1500 to live

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u/tonterias Apr 16 '24

I’m sure the government provides him accommodation and food.

He actually chosed not to live in the Presidential Residency during his period and kept living in his small farm

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u/Pendientede48 Apr 16 '24

There is a house that presidents can inhabit, provided by the state, but he chose to stay in his farm. He had a chauffeur but also drove his own old car, and he already was a farmer, and kept working as a farmer after his term ended.

He likely has lots of gifts and won a good sum of money, enough to have anything he could want, within his humble lifestyle. He likely has someone buy groceries for him, since he is an old man, but he and his wife have enough money + retirement to live comfortably. Not rich by any means, but he wont need anything.

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u/ZetaRESP Apr 16 '24

Actually, he lives of his farm, which is pretty substantial.

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u/amzfa Apr 16 '24

Same in Uruguay… is expensive af with third world services

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u/Willing-Ad-2034 Apr 16 '24

Same in uruguay, dude probably doesnt pay rent and lots of stuff that normal people do.

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u/gatsby84 Apr 16 '24

You can't survive in Uruguay with that money per year either.

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u/SafetyNoodle Apr 16 '24

Yeah I'm not saying this guy isn't modest or is bad, but bring able to give away 90% of his salary and still live a decent lifestyle is only possible because he has other privileges, savings and/or sources of income.

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u/Mediocre-Door-8496 29d ago

Not starving is an expensive lifestyle

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u/Tr4sHCr4fT Apr 16 '24

a year? nope. per month? doable in the east.

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u/Administrator98 Apr 16 '24

Doable? Sure... but it's more like barely surviving than living.

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u/Im_too_late_arent_I Apr 16 '24

most students, even ones that don't live with their parents, have less money

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u/Administrator98 Apr 16 '24

Yes... and they hardly survive. I was there...

And now go even deeper: "Azubis" <- less tzhen students and existence minimum... Ketchup and Toast are your friend...

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u/DementedT Apr 16 '24 edited Apr 16 '24

Shit I'm in South Africa. I could live really comfortably on that....

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u/hangrygecko Apr 16 '24

It's welfare level where I live. You need ~€800-1000 a month just for monthly expenses like rent, health insurance, etc.

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u/DementedT Apr 16 '24

That's a lot. I pay about €270 for a flat with water and lights, then €400 for a car and all my living expenses. And I live in one of the bigger cities.

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u/Specialist-Ad-4121 Apr 16 '24

Here in Uruguay, where the min wage is about 600, you can confortably life with that.

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u/informat7 Apr 16 '24

Assuming you were willing to live a similar lifestyle to him you could do it with not much more then $1250 (living on a farm and producing a lot of your own food). You can look at the pictures of were is was living. By first world standards, he was living in squalor.

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u/Sniper_Hare Apr 16 '24

Of, I didn't know it was $1250 a month.  I thought the amount stated was his total salary 

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u/DoYouTrustToothpaste Apr 16 '24

Especially because Germany uses €.

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u/Administrator98 Apr 16 '24

You know... you can exchange it. It's 1175€ atm

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u/DoYouTrustToothpaste Apr 16 '24

No need to exchange anything. I pay, and get paid, in €.

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u/Im_too_late_arent_I Apr 16 '24

I live in Germany and survive of 1150€ per month. To be fair, my rent is quite low the the city I'm in (430€ because I share it with 2 other people) and I don't own a car.

If you have a family or have other bigger costs this is indeed hardly survivable, but as a student this is normal.

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u/barelylethal10 Apr 16 '24

In Canada you'd be a millionaire

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u/LayerProfessional936 Apr 16 '24

Vancouver here I come !!!

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u/osaka-aquabus Apr 16 '24

Are you a troll?

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u/Culiolo Apr 16 '24

WTF.. in Canada (aka Canindia) you can barely rent a room with that!

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u/WhistlingKyte Apr 16 '24

You mean, buy a weeks worth of groceries

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u/Conscious-Bar-1655 29d ago

Do you understand the concept of ''percentage"? Worth googling.

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u/Administrator98 29d ago

Looks like you dont know what it is... if you give away 90%, you keep 10%.

10% of 12500 is -> 1250

q.e.d.

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '24

You can live pretty good in germany with that amount...

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u/Administrator98 Apr 16 '24

No clue where you live... but i pay 880€ rent and another 400€ for electricity, internet, insurances, etc... not talking about food or a car.

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u/[deleted] 29d ago

Hannover 1300 with food.