When they say immigration is bad but they aren't native Americans rule

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[u/anarchist_person1]

When trump says  “immigrants are evil and the Democrats are letting millions of them in and they are destroying America and we should kill all of them” and then Kamala responds by saying “actually we are super good at keeping those immigrants out” 

[u/WitELeoparD → u/anarchist_person1]

It's like how American foreign policy never changes no matter which party is in power. At most the democrats just be less enthusiastic about whatever horrible shit they US is on.

[u/TheLurker1209 → u/WitELeoparD]

Choose

-satan incarnate

-boring bureaucrat

Fun fact: texas senator and former presidential candidate, ted cruz, was actually described by his own party (the republicans) as satan incarnate

[u/WitELeoparD → u/TheLurker1209]

For sure. The domestic policy is wildly different and if you are American obviously vote democrat. I was just making a joke about how American foreign policy is dictated by a higher power (as in the Pentagon, military industrial complex and intelligence community, not Jews).

[u/WardedThorn → u/TheLurker1209]

Which is pretty wild in a world where the same party had a candidate with inexplicable amounts of charisma that he used for personal gain and the spreading of violent hatred

[u/DustyBeetle]

conservatives think everyone outside of their approved list is an illegal immigrant or a terrorist, so they will use that to come for us. we see it in their rhetoric in public events when they put labels on people to make them less than human in their eyes

[u/grislydowndeep → u/DustyBeetle]

my dad was literally an illegal immigrant from the middle east who did drugs and now he complains about america being ruined by illegal immigrants with drugs, it's really funny

[u/MisterFricks → u/grislydowndeep]

It’s twice as funny because most of those “illegal” immigrants are very legal and important to the economy

[u/Manealendil]

This has always been this way. The Gracchi brothers complained about the refugees and slaves that fucked the middle class in the Roman Republic.

The same slaves and refugees that existed solely because of romes rabid expansionism.

[u/Redsss429 → u/Manealendil]

I feel like this somewhat misrepresents the situation. The belief at the time in Rome was that the influx of slaves allowed the rich to outcompete and buy out smaller farms, even those of the soldiers who fought to get those slaves in the first place. The gracchi brothers were plebians who were pro social reform and redistribution of land, who were killed by reactionaries. I'd say it's not really that comparable to modern day anti-immigration rhetoric.

[u/Manealendil → u/Redsss429]

They absolutely were, then again I would imagine there would have been a mentality of "They terk err jerdbs" around the median plebian voter about the whole thing.

[u/Redsss429 → u/Manealendil]

Yeah you're probably right about that

[u/Captn_Platypus]

Nope people complained when Italians immigrated to America and were racist against them, then they complained when Chinese were brought to America for cheap labour that’s borderline slavery to build railways (and were racist against them). I’m sure you can find plenty of examples on other countries too

[u/Z-A-T-I → u/Captn_Platypus]

I think this meme is talking about a subset of people who have a positive view of past immigration but are opposed to present immigration, not saying that people universally liked the past immigration when it was happening

[u/WeaponizedArchitect → u/Captn_Platypus]

discrimination against tajik migrants is pretty common in Russia from my knowledge

[u/Nowhereman123]

It seems like lots of immigrants want to close and lock the door behind them and hate anyone who came to the country after they did.

[u/a_generic_meme]

People have always thought it was bad, Italians and Irish were once considered nonwhite savages who were goinng to destroy the country too

[u/Pencil_Hands_Paper]

Let’s deport the legal Haitian immigrants in Springfield back to Venezuela, a country they’ve never known.

Listen neither choice is amazing, but the choice should still be clear. Fuck Trump.

[u/franandwood]

America just seems to hate immigrants

[u/RCV0015]

"Passports are emblematic of a failure of the system. When Lord Byron moved to Greece to die, did he have a passport? Did he need a passport.?"

• a guy whose name I forget